tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post7235394962706776323..comments2023-10-22T06:54:40.529-04:00Comments on Identity Check: A Sign of Things to Come?Anokhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05675278947623136467noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-42907308935540165242008-09-26T15:54:00.000-04:002008-09-26T15:54:00.000-04:00my mate got banged up at the RNC. ACAB!my mate got banged up at the RNC. <BR/><BR/>ACAB!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-90680151822454289912008-09-15T19:00:00.000-04:002008-09-15T19:00:00.000-04:00Hi,my name is Anh and for my BA-Thesis I’m current...Hi,<BR/><BR/>my name is Anh and for my BA-Thesis I’m currently conducting a study about American Bloggers.<BR/><BR/>I would like to invite you to participate in the survey.<BR/><BR/>It will only take about 15 minutes and it’s completely anonymous.<BR/>Just visit the following URL:<BR/>http://onlineforschung.org/usblogger<BR/><BR/>Even if you don’t blog, don’t want to participate (or are not American), you can help me by posting the link in your blog and/or inviting others to take part.<BR/><BR/>I greatly appreciate every survey completed ;)<BR/><BR/>Please note that the survey will only be open until Wednesday, Sept. 17.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Thank you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-69270195705996196682008-09-13T09:24:00.000-04:002008-09-13T09:24:00.000-04:00Thanks Fran!Jack, while I agree that there have be...Thanks Fran!<BR/><BR/>Jack, while I agree that there have been worse protests in US history - I am comparing the treatment of the general public and protesters of the two parties <I>this year</I>. <BR/><BR/>A lot has changed legally and politically since 1968. Particularly the loss of rights on a grand scale - while the protests here may not "compare" the ramifications of the overall behavior and attitude of each party is quite telling.<BR/><BR/>And while I am certainly leaning towards Obama, the facts stated in this, and previous two posts are just that. Facts. Can't bias the numbers or events.Anokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05675278947623136467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-70802962333542989382008-09-13T01:28:00.000-04:002008-09-13T01:28:00.000-04:00Anok, nothing, but nothing, can emulate the Democr...Anok, nothing, but nothing, can emulate the Democratic convention of 1968 in Chicago. Mayor Daly's Goon Squads onducted a real head busting crusade in that one. These past 2 were like church picnics in comparison.<BR/><BR/>Hope I am not being presumptive, but do I detect a slight Obama bias in your reporting?Jack Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02838385417692720281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-28117737446722160332008-09-11T23:09:00.000-04:002008-09-11T23:09:00.000-04:00Anok! Thanks. Dusty is the caretaker of Sirens Chr...Anok! Thanks. Dusty is the caretaker of Sirens Chronicles. She will post it for you.<BR/><BR/>http://sirenschronicles.com/<BR/><BR/>Your awesome post will appear there tomorrow Friday 9/12. <BR/><BR/>Maybe you might like to have some of your posts occasionally cross- post there.<BR/><BR/>Keep up your thoughtful blogging. You are a great writer!Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-56306940415189400682008-09-11T15:54:00.000-04:002008-09-11T15:54:00.000-04:00Thanks for all the excellent comments everyone.Fra...Thanks for all the excellent comments everyone.<BR/><BR/>Fran, thank you for the resources, and YES I would be happy for you to use the article, if you think it will help. I can send you the HTML version if you need it, or you can copy and paste if you don't need it.<BR/><BR/>PRand, thank you for the link to your friend's site. I will be checking it out!.<BR/><BR/>Sorry the comments have not been replied to and that I am being short today, I have been hanging out with blogger CRpitt, and now I am exhausted!Anokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05675278947623136467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-15608454783944323292008-09-11T10:10:00.000-04:002008-09-11T10:10:00.000-04:00One other thing- as long as you are doing the comp...One other thing- as long as you are doing the comparison.<BR/><BR/>Obama DID meet with Iraq Veterans & Vets for Peace, who were protesting.<BR/><BR/>McCain REFUSED to meet with reps from the Iraq Veterans group-- they lead a crowd of anti war protestors 3 blocks long!<BR/><BR/>It's one thing to give lip service to supporting the troops, quite another to actually listen to their perspective in a non photo op kind of way.Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-34433995145392390772008-09-11T09:59:00.000-04:002008-09-11T09:59:00.000-04:00Hey Anok- this was a great article- Would you be w...Hey Anok- this was a great article- Would you be willing to have it posted as a *Guest Author* @ Sirens Chronicles?Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-17367476180098152112008-09-11T09:58:00.000-04:002008-09-11T09:58:00.000-04:00Excellent point Anok-- the preemptive arrests were...Excellent point Anok-- the preemptive arrests were particularly troubling- Gestapo like. There is a very disturbing incident of a 17 year old who was beaten by 5 cops. He was bloodies & covered by a shirt when taken away ( so the cameras could not see?) His parents were never called, and they had ripped his shirt when he was being assaulted by the police. When they released him, they gave him a white shirt with an American flag logo that said "Remember 9-11". (The Minnesota Independent ran that story). The kid was battered & had a long lasting boot imprint on his back.<BR/><BR/>The thought of under this administration & how things would be under a extreme right wing administration is a reasonable assessment.<BR/><BR/>But here is another thought-- When the streets swelled with 10,000 protesters-- guess who did NOT come to the convention? <BR/>Bush. They used the lame excuse he was monitoring the hurricane (bullshit! He could monitor it from anywhere) I can't help but wonder if the chaos in the streets prevented him from making an appearance at this own party's convention. Either that or he's such a liability they did not want him there. I can't help but think that Homeland Security had advised he not come. You can't easily hide a Presidential Motorcade with it's Secret Service entourage & bulletproof darkened windows.<BR/>I think Bush was running scared.<BR/><BR/>But to have SWAT teams raid Food not Bombs places as if they were terrorists that torture was just crazy.<BR/><BR/>Thankfully- Lawyers are stepping up to defend people who's rights to assemble & right to free speech were violated.<BR/>What really disturbs me is the distrubuting of FELONY charges.<BR/>If convicted, felons lose the right to vote, be on a jury, hold some jobs, etc.<BR/>A felony charge changes a person's life.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>National Lawyers Guild Seeks Judicial Review of Preventative Detentions Ordered by Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher <BR/>Sunday, August 31, 2008, 11:00 AM<BR/>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - August 31, 2008<BR/><BR/>Contact: Bruce Nestor, 612-991-9488, President, MN Chapter of National Lawyers Guild <BR/><BR/>The Minnesota Chapter of the National Lawyers Guild is seeking prompt judicial review of the preventative detentions of six citizen activists ordered by Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher.<BR/><BR/>Monica Bicking, Eryn Trimmer, Luce Guillen Givins, Erik Oseland, Garrett Fitzgerald, and Nathanael Secor, are all currently being held on “probable cause holds” in the Ramsey County Jail after being transferred late last night from the Hennepin County Jail. In Minnesota, a probable cause hold can be ordered by a police officer without a prosecutor or a judge reviewing a criminal complaint. Due to the arrest occurring on a weekend holiday, all six citizens can be held until Wednesday, September 3, 2008, without the filing of a formal charge.<BR/><BR/>Three of the arrestees are life-long residents of Minnesota. Two previously worked in early childhood education and passed background checks to obtain that employment. All have extensive ties to Minnesota, including employment and family members. One is a graduate of the University of Minnesota. None of the six arrestees have ever been convicted of a felony or crime of violence. One person arrested on Saturday morning, August 30th, was previously detained on Friday night at the St. Paul convergence center where he was photographed and identified. Despite being labeled a “key member” of a “criminal enterprise” and a planner of a “criminal conspiracy,” he was released on Friday night even though Sheriff Fletcher had conducted a months long investigation, using informants, and presumably identified the “key leaders” who he claims were organizing riots and civil disorder.<BR/><BR/>All six arrestees appear to face maximum charges of a gross misdemeanor, punishable by a maximum sentence of one year in jail and a fine of $3,000. Absent death or use of a firearm, a criminal charge of “Riot” in Minnesota is a gross misdemeanor. Minn. Stat. §609.71. A charge of “civil disorder” is a gross misdemeanor and requires proof that a person made or instructed another to use a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device to cause civil unrest. Minn. Stat. §609.669. Property damage in Minnesota under $1,000.00 is also a gross misdemeanor. Minn. Stat. §609.595. <BR/><BR/>Despite the incendiary and alarmist language used by Sheriff Fletcher, there is no evidence that the common household items and tools seized in the pre-emptive house raids were intended to be used to cause death or civil unrest. No judge or prosecutor has reviewed the allegations made by Sheriff Fletcher.<BR/><BR/>In light of the fact that none of the arrestees appear to face felony charges, their extensive ties to Minnesota, and their lack of any serious prior criminal record, attorneys for the National Lawyers Guild are seeking to have a Ramsey County judge review the detentions on Sunday, August 31, 2008. This would be an informal review at which a judge could dismiss the charges or set conditions of release. Media updates will be provided if such a review is held.Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198689517878201943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-66589319394576338422008-09-07T17:10:00.000-04:002008-09-07T17:10:00.000-04:00You better believe it is a sign of things to come ...You better believe it is a sign of things to come and be prepared this too will get much worse in this Fascist America. This was over a month and a half ago but do you remember the cops breaking the mayors door down, shooting his escaping dogs and tying up his mother in law? <A HREF="http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/94317/police_state_madness%3A_mayor's_dogs_gunned_down_by_cops_in_hyper-agressive_drug_raid/" REL="nofollow">Police State madness</A>jmsjoinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17631105639275375922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-71042874207104123682008-09-06T21:03:00.000-04:002008-09-06T21:03:00.000-04:00at this writing not prepared to respond but will s...at this writing not prepared to respond but will say a few things.<BR/><BR/>i was at the infamous convention in chicago though not in the battle zone.<BR/><BR/>the movie "born on the fourth of july" had special meaning to me as i identified with rk on many counts - though no life-changing injuries. what was made clear was the actual physical mayhem on the battle-line itself, i.e, the protesters/the watchdogs. the further away from the battle-line, the much less volatile. for those only reading the newspapers, well, excuse me, pretty clueless on many fronts. note: blogging is a great vehicle to access a virtual battle-line<BR/><BR/>i will point you to a friend who is crazed with this election and created a blog, albeit, loves obama. likewise. i am going to point her to your site.<BR/><BR/>http://horribledictu.com<BR/><BR/>keep us posted, it is appreciated!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-37466966142431502612008-09-06T19:39:00.000-04:002008-09-06T19:39:00.000-04:00The FBI's involvement says it all. This was orches...The FBI's involvement says it all. This was orchestrated through Reichsfuhrer Mukasey's SS and other agencies of the Bush Cartel.<BR/><BR/>"Pre-emptive raids" by police are the hallmarks of totalitarianism.<BR/><BR/>Thoughtcrime has jumped from the pages of 1984 into Amerikan "law und ordnung".<BR/><BR/>Watch for the rewards to trickle down from above to the local jackbooted thugery for their eager cooperation.Dave Dubyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03279370558997246976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-68856806596473441812008-09-06T01:16:00.000-04:002008-09-06T01:16:00.000-04:00Very excellent summary, Anok. I have been thinking...Very excellent summary, Anok. I have been thinking along the same lines as you - that the difference in treatment of the protesters, as well as the difference between the open and closed conventions, is a telling illustration of the difference in vision of the two parties.<BR/><BR/>DemocracyNow.org has the best coverage I've seen of the police actions at both conventions. Their reporting on the RNC has information about the command structure and evidence that Federal agencies were in fact dictating the police actions at RNC.Jan4insighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03884892191580742243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-11648045196717818042008-09-05T23:18:00.000-04:002008-09-05T23:18:00.000-04:00Ren, do you have any kind of link or something abo...Ren, do you have any kind of link or something about it being tied to Homeland Security? Do you know if the DNC was as well?<BR/><BR/>Might make for interesting news, eh?Anokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05675278947623136467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4342220819301909377.post-57708355795218794502008-09-05T22:05:00.000-04:002008-09-05T22:05:00.000-04:00In the Twin Cities during the convention, the loca...In the Twin Cities during the convention, the local police were under the command of Homeland security.<BR/><BR/>The legal demonstration had slogans that fronted for Obama, as "stop McCain" and "defeat the Republican agenda."<BR/><BR/>The demonstrations politically were either oppurtunist or ultra left.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.com